Curse

Jensy · Oct 02, 2009, 01:46 AM // 01:46

http://www.guildwars.com/events/cont...l_bar_contest/

Winners, yay.

(side note, I FREAKING WON with a paragon gvg bar, lol)

dr love · Oct 02, 2009, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by pansy malfoy

(side note, I FREAKING WON with a paragon gvg bar, lol)

narrrrr! i was hoping to have a monopoly on paragons lol

damn those look like regular bars that players play... also frenzy on a henchmen sounds like a fantastic idea

well at least if a player d/cs in HA, you'll have a henchmen with the exact same skills as they did, but with no critical thinking abilities

i have some ideas for the heros names:

"Dies In Frenzy"

"Fleshes With No Health"

"Infuses Out"

"Snares Nothing"

"Convert Hex Grasping Earth"

"Death Pacts Warriors"

]HM[ Sabre Wolf · Oct 02, 2009, 01:57 AM // 01:57

GZ to the winners who actually submitted a cool build.

But seriously? Talk about taking the meta and just apply it to the Warriors... total lack of creativity... I guess cookie cutter works in contest builds as well... I wish I could say GZ to the ones that submitted the War GvG bars... but those builds have been in the meta for like over a year. Nothing new or special...

EDIT: Actually looking down the list...

Conjure Crip
Magehunter (Sin version)
Primal Rage (Axe)
Kappa Ele
MB Ele
Shatter Gank
LC Necro (standard)

Seriously? Lets just submit the current meta...

I Angra I · Oct 02, 2009, 01:58 AM // 01:58

CONGRATS WOOO <3

Though I do have to say, do they even realize that the henchmen will be able to use maybe 1 or 2 of those bars properly, and that's it? There's so many skills that the AI doesn't use correctly and it's going to be a hugely wasted henchman slot.

Giga_Gaia · Oct 02, 2009, 01:59 AM // 01:59

Wait.. henchmen can't use frenzy properly... they'll die in seconds. WTH? Am I missing something here?

EDIT: Looking closer, I highly doubt the AI can handle any of the builds that require skill/timing instead of spamming. And those that just spams will most likely run into energy problems. Lol

joshuarodger · Oct 02, 2009, 02:00 AM // 02:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by pansy malfoy

http://www.guildwars.com/events/cont...l_bar_contest/

Winners, yay.

(side note, I FREAKING WON with a paragon gvg bar, lol)

gratz malfoy, that tonic is going to be worth a buttload if you sell it. enjoy.

Neo Nugget · Oct 02, 2009, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Grats on the win! I wasn't really expecting to win anything.

So what are you going to name the henchie?

StormDragonZ · Oct 02, 2009, 02:03 AM // 02:03

I'm probably going to be the only person to say this, but:

A build with Primal Rage won... really!?

EDIT: A build with Death Pact Signet won... really!?

]HM[ Sabre Wolf · Oct 02, 2009, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshuarodger

that tonic is going to be worth a buttload if you sell it.

mmmm, probably will be customized... one would think...

Shayne Hawke · Oct 02, 2009, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Oh, those bars, those bars, those bars...

I just hope that ANet isn't getting a clue from these kinds of builds for this year's CB. I will cry many tears if that happens.

]HM[ Sabre Wolf · Oct 02, 2009, 02:08 AM // 02:08

Wait... Bunny Thumper wins? (under HA)

moriz · Oct 02, 2009, 02:09 AM // 02:09

wow, way to be utterly generic.

although that cripshot bar is totally lawl.

Zahr Dalsk · Oct 02, 2009, 02:09 AM // 02:09

Entertaining skill bars, those.

lolanet

Zesty · Oct 02, 2009, 02:11 AM // 02:11

The way they worded the contest rules makes me take this change is going to be a large failure unless they don't use the original rules as strictly as they intended.

Quote:

Entries will be judged on the basis of merit and appropriateness to game design considerations as determined by the Development Team.

So basically here is where I got the impression they were not changing AI behavior at all for this. The builds submitted are not necessarily bad but a lot of them are to complex for effective use by AI. Frenzy/PRage for one should really not be trusted on a hero especially when faced by a caster or ranged spike. AI has always had tough times with hammers along with complex assassin combos as well. Skills such as Aura of Stability, Defile Defenses, Infuse and others are used incorrectly or not used at all by AI.

So basically. This contest was more of an epic fail than it already was, who will really use anything besides the hexers and paragons in the first place. On top of this, the AI makes the other henchmen useless besides the hexers and paragons.

So here's my post to say screw you anet I made all my builds according to AI flaws.

slowerpoke · Oct 02, 2009, 02:14 AM // 02:14

there shouldn't be any hench or heroes in ha/gvg
instead, improve player grouping and rank system

hmm my frenzy healsig mending no elite war didnt win

]HM[ Sabre Wolf · Oct 02, 2009, 02:15 AM // 02:15

Ya I mean... the Henchie will be using Hammer Bash, which looses all Adr before they get to Mage Hunter... and Frenzy/PRage on Henchie = auto death...

I will say GG to the Rit builds though... those ones are thought out. So I will say congratz to those people.

Jensy · Oct 02, 2009, 02:16 AM // 02:16

^__^

This is way dorky, but I'm excited, heh. I never win shit.

(side note, there's no way in dooty I want a henchmen rezzing me with DPS...)

Thenameless Wonder · Oct 02, 2009, 02:16 AM // 02:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by ]HM[ Sabre Wolf

GZ to the winners who actually submitted a cool build.

But seriously? Talk about taking the meta and just apply it to the Warriors... total lack of creativity... I guess cookie cutter works in contest builds as well... I wish I could say GZ to the ones that submitted the War GvG bars... but those builds have been in the meta for like over a year. Nothing new or special...

EDIT: Actually looking down the list...

Conjure Crip
Magehunter (Sin version)
Primal Rage (Axe)
Kappa Ele
MB Ele
Shatter Gank
LC Necro (standard)

Seriously? Lets just submit the current meta...

Ya, I submitted a W/Me build for HA with tease, power drain, 2 kd skills, crushing blow, lions comfort, a reds signet and one I forgot. Guess it isn't creative enough to win ~.~. Gratz on anyone who won tho...

dr love · Oct 02, 2009, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by ]HM[ Sabre Wolf

I will say GG to the Rit builds though... those ones are thought out. So I will say congratz to those people.

they are just meta rt bars...

[email protected]

well at least the big picture will be achieved. heroes and any sort of AI won't see the light of day in pvp

]HM[ Sabre Wolf · Oct 02, 2009, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbulger

they are just meta rt bars...

ug... ok...